Madonna speaks against the culture of cancellation

Madonna performs in 2019. (Photo: Michael Campanella / Getty Images)

Madonna performs in 2019. (Photo: Michael Campanella / Getty Images)

More than 30 years after Madonna shocked with her controversial performance of “Like a Virgin” at the MTV Video Music Awards in 1984, the singer is still out to disturb the peace.

“It’s interesting because peace is subjective,” she said In the Magazine in an interview published Friday. The way people think about the pandemic, for example, that vaccination is the only answer or the polarization of believing that you are either on this or that side. There is no debate, there is no discussion. That’s something I want to disturb. I would like to disturb the fact that we are not encouraged to discuss it. I believe in our job [as artists] is to disrupt the status quo. The censorship that is going on in the world right now, it’s pretty scary. No one is allowed to say their opinion right now. No one is allowed to say what they really think about things for fear of being canceled, cancel culture. In the culture of cancellation, disturbing the peace is likely to be a betrayal. “

As the “Vogue” artist sees it, it is always better to say no than to remain silent.

“The thing is, the calmer you get, the more scared you get, the more dangerous something is,” she said. “We give it power by shutting up completely.”

She named Kanye West’s latest album, Donda, as the only thing she had heard lately that inspired her. He “works against failure,” which she said all artists should do.

Madonna praised Kanye West's album

Madonna praised Kanye West’s album Donda. (Photo: Kevin Mazur / Child2014 / WireImage)

“I can not say that I agree with all his politics and the way he thinks about women, or unmarried people having sex, or the gay community,” the gay icon said. “But his work is on the edge of the knife, and it’s inspiring, and it’s rare. Everyone waited so long for his record to come out and then finally, when it came out, everyone else’s record came out too. And he still stood out. out. “

She was asked how she felt West had worked with DaBaby on the album, following homophobic comments he made at a concert. (He has since apologized to the LGBTQ + community for his “misinformed,” “hurtful, and triggering” words.)

“I was in conflict with that, but like I said, I have to pay attention to the message, not the messenger,” Madonna explained. “It’s important. Listen to the teacher. Do not get caught by the teacher what the teacher is doing.”

As a 63-year-old, Madonna plans to keep talking. And sang. And dance. She does this in her concert film Madame X, which captures her 2019 theater tour of the same name and was released earlier this month on Paramount +. She noted that she could have chosen to run yet another stadium for a whole lot more money, but she chose a more intimate experience with her fans that required smaller venues, which meant less potential revenue.

“Well, first of all, everyone told me not to do it because it was too ambitious,” Madonna said. “Because there were too many people on stage. I tried to tell too many stories. I tried to share too much of the things I love in one place and at the same time.”

Of course, she went on anyway, which was not easy for a woman who, if she were not a global superstar, would probably consider retiring.

“I’m not even thinking about my age, to tell you the truth. I’m just going on,” she said. “Even when I was performing almost my entire tour in pain, I had no cartilage left in my right hip, and everyone kept saying, ‘You have to stop, you have to stop.’ I said, ‘I’m not stopping. I’m going , until the wheels fall off. ‘ “It was COVID who shut us down in Paris, as we still had 10 days left of shows, and I wanted to keep going. I didn’t care how bad it hurt.”

The last thing she wants to do is hang up the microphone.

“I never think about the limitations of time and when I should stop. I only think about it when extremely ignorant people say to me, ‘Don’t you think you deserve the right to just sit back and enjoy all your success and all the things you have achieved and retired? ” said Madonna. “Do not retire, no one would dare say that word to me. I say to them: ‘Wait a minute. Why do you think I do as I do?'”

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