She may only be 24, but Hailey Bieber has seen it all.
The supermodel recently opened up about her Christian faith, juggling the good and bad of being in public with her husband Justin Bieber, and how dealing with her own father’s addiction helped her navigate Justin’s own recovery.
“There’s a lot of addiction running in my family, not even just my dad, but a lot of other people on that side of my family struggling with a lot of different things,” Hailey told Amanda de Cadenet on the podcast Victoria’s Secret Voices. “My father was always very open about [his addiction] and I have always appreciated it… He was always extremely open about why being sober worked for him, and why we should be sober, and what alcoholic behavior looks like, and why it comes out. ”
“I was never someone who struggled with any drugs,” Hailey admitted. “It was because I was so aware of it because of my father. He had a really big problem with cocaine and I thought I would never try it because I was so scared that if I tried it once, it could lead to something else. “
That experience, she said, helped her navigate Justin’s journey toward sobriety. “When I used to talk about working on a lot of things when we first got married, I also think that was part of it,” she explained. “Looking back on times of drug use and being in some dark rooms and in a way having to go back there was extremely difficult.”
It has been hugely beneficial to have an “open dialogue” about it, she pointed out.
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“To be like, ‘Hey, where are you with this?’ I’ve had times when I would get nervous, [asking Justin], ‘Are you okay with doing this? Because you had a time in your life where it was not okay for you and it was a dark time for you. ‘ But he has a very good self-awareness when it comes to it and is very open about it, and that’s all I can really ask for. ”
Since the couple got married in 2018, later held a ceremony in 2019, their personal lives have been an easy target for the media. Bieber credits her “Christian faith” for helping her find “empathy” for social media trolls.
“I think about it a lot because something that tends to happen all the time when you’re in the public eye is that people somehow invent who they think you are,” she explains. “I think a lot of people do not have much empathy for people in public. I think when people say, ‘Well, she asked for this’, it’s actually not true because I did not ask grown men to follow me around with cameras and harass me and invade my room and quietly me really invasive questions and make I feel insecure. I did not ask for that. Nobody wants that. “
After growing up in the church, Bieber also talked about some of the hypocrisy she has experienced as a woman of faith, including the “shame” that some Christians have spit on her because of her lifestyle.
“Because of what I do, because of my job, I show a lot of skin, I do a lot of things where, according to the church world, it would be provocative,” she said. “I’ve had a lot of people say a lot about, yes, it’s very misleading, or it’s a bad representation. A conversation that I think should be opened wide up is the shaming that comes from the church environment towards women. «
“I think that something that happens when you grew up in the church and you do not have enough open dialogue is that everything feels as if you are doing something bad. I think that’s how I felt for many years, ”she explained. “I would go out and get drunk or something, and I would feel very ashamed. There is a lot of shame attached to the church.”
“I believe that a relationship with God is the opposite of feeling ashamed,” she continued. “I do not think God wants you to feel ashamed and that everything is a bad thing. Even like having sex before you get married, it was a big thing for me as a teenager. I thought, ‘Oh my God, straight up, I’m going to hell.’ That kind of thing was so intense for me, and I just had to regret it a lot. “
Yet today, Bieber takes these lessons and applies them to the future, especially when it comes to creating a work-life balance and understanding the important things in life.
“As I get older, I strongly believe that our no is sometimes stronger than our yes,” she said. “I always try to make sure it’s like family first, and when I say family, right now the family is me and my husband and the dog. I always try to put it on top before work. “