Venom 3 Has An Impossible Spider-Man Challenge After No Way Home

Before the events of Spider-Man: No Way Homethere was hope for Sony’s Venom (Tom Hardy) and the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Spider-Man (Tom Holland) crossing paths in Venom 3but this is now an impossible challenge after No Way Home. As the MCU continues its expansion with the Multiverse Saga, Sony’s Spider-Man Universe also continues to grow by exploring the stories of some of Spider-Man’s most famous enemies, with Venom currently in the lead.

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Sony’s Spider-Man Universe kicked off in 2018 with Ruben Fleischer’s Venom, which introduced struggling journalist Eddie Brock (Hardy) and the title alien symbiote. Although Venom wasn’t well-received by critics, it was a success with the audience, allowing it to return in a sequel, titled Venom: Let There Be Carnagewith a third movie now in development. Venom 2 had a huge surprise up its sleeve as its mid-credits scene saw Eddie and Venom being transported to the MCU, where they saw Peter Parker on the news. This fueled the audience’s hopes of finally seeing Venom fight Spider-Man in Venom 3but Spider-Man: No Way Home has now made this very difficult.

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Venom 3 Has An Impossible Spider-Man Challenge After No Way Home

The MCU’s current era is officially called the Multiverse Saga, and Phase 4 started exploring the multiverse in the TV series Loki. The MCU went deeper into the chaos and dangers of the multiverse Spider-Man: No Way Home, which saw the title hero dealing with villains from other parts of the multiverse. As his identity was revealed at the end of Spider-Man: Far From Home and Mysterio (Jake Gyllenhaal) framed him for his murder, Peter Parker asked Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) to cast a spell that would make everyone forget he’s Spider-Man. However, the spell was botched and it opened the gates of the multiverse, allowing villains from the past Spider-Man movies, along with Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Men, to cross over into the MCU.

The only solution to this multiverse chaos was casting a spell that made everyone forget Peter Parker, and so the villains, Peter-Two, and Peter-Three were sent back to their respective universes, while the multiverse’s gates were closed and Peter was left all alone. In Now Way Home‘s mid-credits scene, it was revealed that the botched spell was what brought Eddie and Venom to the MCU, so they were sent back after the final spell was cast – but a piece of Venom was left in the MCU. This, then, sets up a Spider-Man/Venom encounter in the MCU, but not with Hardy’s Eddie Brock as the host.

Eddie Brock isn’t the only host of Venom in Marvel Comics, so there are a couple of options for the piece of the symbiote that is now in the MCU. Of course, there’s a chance that the symbiote will bond with Spider-Man himself (hopefully in a better story than the one in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 3), but it could also find a host in Marc Gargan/Scorpion (Michael Mando) or even Flash Thompson (Tony Revolori), both already introduced characters in the MCU. A theory suggests Venom could bond with Ned Leeds (Jacob Batalon), making the Venom vs Spider-Man fight a personal one for Peter Parker.

Tom Hardy’s Venom Deserves To Fight A Spider-Man

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Eddie and Venom’s story has been explored in a way that they don’t need Spider-Man, but that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to fight him. After first bonding with Spider-Man in the comics and later taking Eddie Brock as its main host, Venom became one of Spider-Man’s most prominent and popular villains, and was considered one of his three archenemies at one point (the others being the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus). Venom has since become more of an anti-hero, and has teamed up with Spider-Man a couple of times, so they definitely deserve to cross paths on the big screen.

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Venom 3 Including Spider-Man Is Very Difficult After No Way Home

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As much as Venom and Spider-Man deserve to meet and fight each other (and maybe later join forces), this is now a lot more difficult thanks to the events of No Way Home. Before Spider-Man’s third solo movie, it was speculated that Venom and Spider-Man could cross paths thanks to Peter’s identity being revealed to the world, as back then it was assumed they lived in the same universe. Spider-Man: No Way Home quickly put an end to those rumors by showing that Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy, Marc Webb’s The Amazing Spider-Man movies, and Sony’s Spider-Man Universe are all part of the MCU’s multiverse, but at the same time are separate from Spider-Man’s MCU universe.

Because of this, Hardy’s Venom and Holland’s Spider-Man can’t meet (yet) and the web-slinger can’t be included in Venom 3, as for that, there would have to be another massive multiverse issue that brings them together. In No Way Home‘s mid-credits scene, Eddie decided he has to talk to Spider-Man to make sense of everything he was told had happened in the MCU, but this won’t make any sense now that he’s back in his universe.

How Venom 3 Could Still Include Spider-Man

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However, just like the MCU’s Spider-Man can still fight Venom, though not Hardy’s version of it, Venom 3 can still include Spider-Man… but perhaps not Holland’s version. As mentioned above, in order for Hardy’s Venom and Holland’s Spider-Man to properly meet, there should be another multiverse chaos that brings them together, but that would depend on when Venom 3 is seen. Now, the MCU’s multiverse has introduced the concept of variants, which is how Maguire and Garfield’s Spider-Men were brought back, so there could be a currently unknown Peter Parker variant in Venom’s universe, waiting for a chance to cross paths with Eddie and the symbiote. Until story details of Venom 3 are revealed and its place in the timeline is confirmed, these seem to be the only ways Venom 3 could include Spider-Man (whether Holland’s version or a variant), and while Spider-Man: No Way Home was exciting, it also made other stories even more difficult.

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